sheliak: Scott Summers and Madelyne Pryor: profoundly doomed, but happy right now. (scott/maddy: good for now)
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A return to the readthrough and to Classic X-Men! This time, a story from Banshee's past.

Dearest Friend )

Thoughts )

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Does Black Tom's characterization here work for you?

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Yes
4 (100.0%)

No
0 (0.0%)

Would you have liked a sequel/follow-up to this story?

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Yes
2 (50.0%)

No; this is a good place to leave off.
2 (50.0%)

No; I'm not invested enough in these characters
0 (0.0%)

Should the leprechauns have shown up?

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The leprechauns should always show up.
3 (75.0%)

No, but they should have met Maeve in a later story.
0 (0.0%)

No, it wouldn't have worked.
1 (25.0%)



I made icons of this one!
sheliak: Jean Grey silhouetted against the Phoenix Force. (jean: bold)
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Frontispiece art )
What Stuff our Dreams are Made Of... )
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Intergalactic telepathy: instantaneous or not?

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Yes
4 (80.0%)

No
1 (20.0%)



Next: Universe-saving shenanigans.
After that: Starjammers!
sheliak: The Phoenix Force reflected in Rachel Summers's eye. (phoenix: eye)
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No pictures today--my scanner wasn't cooperating; all of the scans I took had large blurry edges. From now on I may be at the mercy of Marvel Unlimited.

In this one, Misty Knight guest stars. She punches a shark!

Lifesigns )
sheliak: Storm during the Lifedeath story arc. (storm: sandstorm)
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This is one of my favorite X-Men stories. It’s also the darkest one so far, concerning Magneto’s backstory.

A Fire in the Night! )

Tell me about your favorite Magneto stories, and which takes on Magneto you like best?

And, in stories where Anya survives (fanfic, What Ifs), do you prefer her to be a mutant or baseline human?

Next Thursday: Phoenix vs. Firelord
Next Sunday: Jean has a heart-to-heart with Misty Knight.
sheliak: Handwoven tapestry of the planet Jupiter. (Default)
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Sorry in advance for the lack of images and poll this time around.

Hope )

Next Thursday: The X-Men face off against an angry purveyor of rented hovercraft, and also Magneto.
Next Sunday: Magneto's backstory.
sheliak: Callisto from the X-Men comics (Callisto)
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I remembered this as a story about Logan's terrible birthday. I am not sure where I got the part about it being his birthday, in retrospect; on reading the story, it doesn't seem to be mentioned. (Although in my defense, Logan probably doesn't know what day his birthday is. It could be today! He wouldn't know to mention it!)

Tag, Sucker! )

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Sabretooth as Wolverine's father

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... was a good idea and should've happened
2 (22.2%)

... was a bad idea.
7 (77.8%)

Wolverine stories should be set in...

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... the city, so he can monologue grumpily at it.
7 (77.8%)

... the countryside.
1 (11.1%)

.... the wilderness.
0 (0.0%)

.... space.
0 (0.0%)

.... somewhere else, as I will specify in the comments.
1 (11.1%)



Any thoughts on this issue? Favorite depictions of Wolverine's powers? Favorite uses of Sabretooth?

Alternately, want to talk about your favorite Wolverine solo stories? I generally say I'm not a fan, but in all honesty, I haven't read many. Maybe I just haven't read the good ones?

Thursday: Wolverine does not believe in leprechauns, and the leprechauns do not believe in talking wolverines.
Sunday: Storm and a writer.
sheliak: Nightcrawler, jumping around in a giant jungle gym with a huge grin on his face. (nightcrawler: jump)
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The Gift )

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On X-Men ghost stories...

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Yes, it's a bit startling for the X-Men to meet ghosts.
2 (20.0%)

No, that's the kind of world they live in.
8 (80.0%)

sheliak: The Phoenix raptor. (phoenix: raptor)
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Twenty-seven minutes to Earth's atmosphere.

Not long at all.

Just the rest of my life.

Nothing like going out in a blaze of glory.

So long as I don't take the X-Men with me.

Keep it up with the jokes, girl. Anything to keep from screaming.


Phoenix )

Poll #21445 That Retcon
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What do you think of the Phoenix retcon?

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I’m glad it happened and that Jean wasn’t responsible for killing a planet anymore.
1 (8.3%)

I hate it, and I think she should have stayed dead.
1 (8.3%)

I think it weakens an era of stories, but I’m glad we got Jean back anyway.
1 (8.3%)

I’m glad to have Jean back, but I wish she’d been allowed to come back without being absolved of her guilt.
1 (8.3%)

Well, it’s been retconned enough times that I’m happy to just take the pieces I like and ignore the rest.
8 (66.7%)



Next Thursday: Another view of the Phoenix. Also, Cassidy family drama.
Next Sunday: A ghost story.
sheliak: Scott Summers in disguise as Erik the Red. (erik the red)
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Today we leave our heroes (in dire peril, of course) for a villainous interlude at the Hellfire Club.

Out With the Old )

Two members of the later Hellfire Club are conspicuous by their absence in this story. Jason Wyngarde presumably hasn't joined yet, but what about the other one?

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Donald Pierce is absent from this story because...

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... he has yet to be recruited into the Hellfire Club.
2 (20.0%)

... he is a member, but Buckman dislikes cyborgs and Pierce hates mutants, so he's not part of either group and thus survives the conflict.
3 (30.0%)

... both factions dislike him on purely personal grounds, so ditto.
1 (10.0%)

... he was forbidden from wearing a pink frock coat to Buckman's party, stayed home to sulk, and consequently missed everything.
4 (40.0%)



And any other thoughts on this story?

Next Thursday: A very different sacrifice.
Next Sunday: An attempt to reconcile a retcon with what came before.
sheliak: The Phoenix raptor. (phoenix: raptor)
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For me, Classic X-Men's quiet stories were always its strong point; this one is quieter than most. Chris Claremont called it a story without words; it's not quite that, but it's a story told primarily through the art, without dialogue or narrative captions.

A Love Story )

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Does this count as a story without words?

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Yes, the lack of dialogue, thought balloons and captions is enough.
5 (50.0%)

No, the notes and poster disqualify it.
0 (0.0%)

No, but for Claremont it's close enough.
5 (50.0%)



What did you think of this issue? Would you like to see other X-Men stories told without dialogue? Is there an artist you'd like to see draw one?

(Also, how much do you think Jean and Misty know about each other at this point?)

Next Thursday: The X-Men mount a rescue mission in space!
Next Sunday: Skullduggery at the Hellfire Club.
sheliak: Phone calls are hard. (colossus: communicate)
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Today: Colossus's complicated feelings about leaving his homeland, and a doomed romance.

Prison of the Heart )

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How do you feel about retconned-in relationships with new characters?

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Mean: 2.71 Median: 3 Std. Dev 0.88
Nay 1
1 (14.3%)
2
1 (14.3%)
3
4 (57.1%)
4
1 (14.3%)
Yay 5
0 (0.0%)

How much do you like the public to know about mutants in an X-Men story?

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Hardly anyone knows about mutants.
0 (0.0%)

Most people are aware of mutants, but don't think about them that much.
7 (77.8%)

Everyone knows about mutants, and has an opinion.
2 (22.2%)



What did you think about this story?

Alternately, any thoughts on Colossus in this era?
sheliak: Nightcrawler, jumping around in a giant jungle gym with a huge grin on his face. (nightcrawler: jump)
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In this issue, Kurt and Logan begin to make friends, and Kurt's complicated relationship with the image inducer is introduced as well.

The story opens with them sparring via a rather dramatic game of tag. Kurt is being theatrical; Logan doesn’t approve.

Nightcrawler: But I was raised in a circus, remember?

Nightcrawler: I learned acrobatics as soon as I began to walk!

Wolverine: Fancy footwork’s fine for a show, elf.

Wolverine: Not for combat.


The Big Dare )

So, what did you think of this issue--the game of tag, the bet, and its outcome?

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What would you use an image inducer for?

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Like Kurt, I'd make myself look like a favorite movie star.
2 (33.3%)

Also like Kurt, I'd use it to imitate my friends' appearences.
1 (16.7%)

I would use it to confound my enemies!
2 (33.3%)

I'd use it to create the illusion of a different set of clothes than I'm wearing.
5 (83.3%)

Something else.
1 (16.7%)



Alternately, talk about your favorite Wolverine & Nightcrawler moments, our your favorite uses of the image inducer!

(And since Kurt brought up the subject, feel free to speculate about the other X-Men's favorite Star Wars characters if you like!)
sheliak: Jean Grey, looking down, mournful. (jean: sorrowful)
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In this issue, the X-Men return Thunderbird's body to his family, and mourn him. Along the way, both they and the reader learn a little more about John Proudstar, and why he made the choices he did.

This is the story that made me care about John Proudstar. I still think it’s one of the best of the Classic backups.

(Apologies in advance—some of my scans have a blurry edge, on account of being taken from a large and not entirely cooperative hardcover.)

Mourning )

I adored this story as a teenager; it made me care about (and yes, mourn) John Proudstar, when before all I'd felt was that it was a shame he'd died before getting fleshed out at all.

I’m fairly sure that this was published after James Proudstar made his first appearances in New Mutants and X-Men; that surprised me, as this story read like foreshadowing, and as a teenager I assumed it really had been his first appearance. And James’s furious speech in the end is by far the weakest part of the story, for me. I’m afraid it put me off of the character for years; I thought of him as the ‘boring’ brother even though he’s had much more characterization, simply because he’s so much less nuanced in this story.

Poll #21162 Favorite Scene
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Which scene(s) are your favorite?

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Jean and the Professor
2 (66.7%)

Sean's internal monologue
0 (0.0%)

Kurt and Piotr's flashback
0 (0.0%)

Ororo's flashback
1 (33.3%)

Logan putting the pieces together
2 (66.7%)

James at the funeral
0 (0.0%)

Something else, which I will explain in the comments.
0 (0.0%)



What did you think?

Next Thursday: Cyclops mourns, and also quarrels with the narrator, with catastrophic results.

Next Sunday: Wolverine and Nightcrawler bond.
sheliak: Jean Grey and Ororo Munroe, embracing after a long separation. (jean+ororo: hug)
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This time the backup story has nothing much to do with the "main" storyline of Uncanny X-Men; rather than involving team-building or Count Nefaria (I for one am glad about the latter), it's about the beginning of Jean and Ororo's friendship.

First Friends )

What did you think of this story?

And also...

Poll #21121 Favorite Friendship
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Which early Claremont-era friendship is your favorite?

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Jean and Ororo
3 (50.0%)

Kurt and Logan
6 (100.0%)

Scott and Hank
0 (0.0%)

Professor X and Moira MacTaggert
0 (0.0%)

Someone else, as I will explain in the comments.
0 (0.0%)



Next readthrough post will be X-Men 94 on Thursday; next Classic X-Men post will be #3, next Sunday.
sheliak: Colossus from the X-Men, in stark red and yellow. (colossus: stark)
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Classic X-Men reprinted the early Claremont run a few years after the fact—but with a lot of edits and new material. Ads were removed and replaced with new pages and panels of story; dialogue was edited to bring it into line with later continuity or characterization (e.g. Ororo would not say ‘Good Lord’ in a moment of stress, so in the reprints she says “Goddess!” instead; Kurt can’t teleport blind). There was new cover art, fancy frontispieces (some of those are pretty cool) and most importantly, a new short story in each issue.

Most of the new stories were character-focused standalones. The best of them are some of my favorite X-Men stories ever.

The first issue was a bit of an odd case. Giant-Size X-Men #1 was huge; there wasn’t room to stick in a backup story. So, they cut a lot out to make room. Classic X-Men #1 kept the character introduction scenes from Giant-Size, and nothing else. It opens with a new version of Cyclops staggering home from Krakoa (costume in tatters, of course) and Professor X deciding to recruit a new team. (Remember when I said that I always misremember the order of events in Giant-Size? I'm pretty sure that this story is why.) Cyclops gets to angst a bit about the return of his powers, which he’d briefly hoped were gone for good; the Professor advises against self-pity, but sympathizes more with Scott’s worries about losing his friends. Then it segues to the original intros, and then quickly summarizes the actual fight against Krakoa before settling in to tell a new story about the combined team at the mansion, the evening before half of them decide to leave. That's the bulk of the story, and my favorite part of the issue.

It’s a bit of a mission statement for what Classic would be at its best: character studies and slice of life.

First Night )

Poll #21078 Favorite Scene
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Which interaction did you like the best?

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Scott and the Professor
0 (0.0%)

Alex and Lorna
2 (33.3%)

Scott and Jean
0 (0.0%)

Sean, Piotr and Kurt
3 (50.0%)

Sean, Kurt, and Bobby
2 (33.3%)

John and Bobby
1 (16.7%)

Jean and Logan
1 (16.7%)

Jean and the Professor
3 (50.0%)

Something else, as I will explain in the comments
0 (0.0%)

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